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Hi Bill
I'm another future Amel owner here. Btw, I thank you for getting me in this forum. It is being great for me to be here. I am following all posts carefully and trying to understand the issues and mentality of owning a boat because I have never owned a sailboat. I'm over 60 and I decided to own a boat and live on it. I don't have much experience about sailing either, but I have the courage and patience to learn. Because most Amel owners live onboard it's being great to hear their stories here. I made a lot of research about boats and I fell in love with Amel. I love the boat but I love the story of Mr H. Amel and his philosophy more. I can see the same philosophy is well accepted by the Amel boar owners. Amel boat was being expensive for me at the beginning but the more research I made the more I got close to Amel. The production boats started to seem like toys to me. Amel is like a magnet for me now. Firstly I decided to buy a SM2000 boat, but then I decided to go higher because it's an old boat for me and I don't have much experience (both on sailing and equipment on board) for now despite I have a mech. eng background. Therefore I decided to wait for buying a A54. Now my target is buying an Amel 55 :)). Thanks to my investment in a lithium mine project in Australia. This forum is really very helpful. Bill, you are a significant and excellent asset for Amel owners here. Your existence and contribution here are assuring me and not leaving any hesitation to buy an Amel. I thank you and everyone contributing here. Cheers Dennis |
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Bill,
Thank you for all you do. As a future owner who has gone through a lot of different manufactures in my research of what I am looking for in my purchase. The Amel initially was not on my radar Initially. During my research I found myself always coming back to Amel. The design, capability and design just kept calling me back. Finding this platform with everyone working together to share information and support each other put me over the top on Amel. I am the fly on the wall watching and learning from what everyone has to share (except now I am making myself known and not so quiet). My window for a purchase is approaching in about 1.5 years and I cannot wait to get started. For now I am going back to my little spot on the wall to watch and learn. So thank you Bill and all Amel owners for all the information and support you provide. I hope all of you have a nice holiday and a Happy New Year. |
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Thank you Bill and all other contributing Amel owners to this forum.
I too am a new Non/owner member of this group and I can 100% affirm to you Bill and all contributing Amel owners you have convinced me the only boat to consider buying is an Amel. I look forward to reading all your posts daily and have learned so much
from all of you.
Thank you so much for your service!
On Sep 9, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Tim Noble <timothynoble01@...> wrote: Bill,
I also fall into this category. For me I review a lot of the posts previous and present to learn what I may experience when I do get my Amel. I have no illusions that when I get a boat that it will need some work/TLC in the beginning and throughout my stewardship of owning the boat. Stuff happens over time and I understand that. As far as reliability of Amels they seem to hold up really well and are built very well with a lot of thought into the design and building of each vessel. Keep posting everyone I am sponging all this knowledge up. |
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Bill,
I also fall into this category. For me I review a lot of the posts previous and present to learn what I may experience when I do get my Amel. I have no illusions that when I get a boat that it will need some work/TLC in the beginning and throughout my stewardship of owning the boat. Stuff happens over time and I understand that. As far as reliability of Amels they seem to hold up really well and are built very well with a lot of thought into the design and building of each vessel. Keep posting everyone I am sponging all this knowledge up. |
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Just to add to the choir, I've met quite a few Amel owners over the past 5 years (mostly the older ones, Santorin, 53, 54, a few 55s) and I've never met a single one who wasn't pretty much head over heels in love. Ourselves included. As for maintenance, who on earth wouldn't think any boat doesn't need lots of tasks big and small being done almost all the time? :) But the Amel is very thoughtfully designed and laid out, service is much easier most of the time.
For prospective owners, best of all, it's a huge family, it really is. Any time an Amel appears on the horizon, every other Amel owner within sight will be coming over to say hi, and you will be welcomed to do the same. The exchange of experiences and information, advice, is incredible. The camaraderie always makes my day. |
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Rodney Aylmore
Thanks Bill,
I'm also in your target audience and have been browsing topics here finding it somewhat daunting, particularly as someone without a 'trade' qualification or mechanical background. This is a good reminder that maintaining a boat is an ongoing process and that everything is surmountable with research, guidance and application. Looking forward to Amel custodianship. |
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Thanks, Scott. I admit that I also chuckle from time to time. Bill
On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 1:00 AM Scott Williams <scott_e_williams@...> wrote:
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Scott Williams
Thanks Bill
As one of your target audience for this ‘mail, I must say that as a “lurker” in the group waiting to “step up” one day, I am grateful for the cornucopia of knowledge that you, and this forum provide.
Initially daunting in its breadth and depth, I’m getting a handle on the key areas of repairs and maintenance that are more typical in requiring attention – and these seem, in many cases, to bridge across the various model lines of the marque.
So when an A50 one day becomes mine, I think that I’ll be at least forewarned of likely generic issues... and can plumb the depths of the archives if necessary.
I have no concerns with the Amel product philosophies – the legacy USP’s are plainly irrefutable to me.
But if, on occasions the depth become a little daunting, there’s always the entertainment value of the various “colourful” personalities amongst the membership list ... 😊
cheers
Scott Williams Future A50 custodian
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From: CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2022 11:19 am To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New Non-owner Members:
Just a short note to all New Non-owner Members of the group.
Our Group now has over 1300 members worldwide. Almost all of our members currently own an Amel. However some of our members, like you, are considering purchasing an Amel. This note is mainly for you guys, but maybe some other owners will add to this.
You are going to see many postings from owners about repairs and maintenance. Let me assure you that this does not mean that an Amel requires a lot of repair and maintenance nor does it mean that an Amel is not made well. In my experience while sailing around the world, I found that I had much more spare time than owners of all other brands. Our Amel SM was engineered in such a way that maintenance was as easy as possible, and systems were selected and installed in such a way that failures were not premature. All marine systems require a degree of care and most have a finite life.
Please take into consideration that the postings almost never include a great sailing passage story because we owners know what to expect and it would be foolish for owners to tell other owners what they know. So, yes, we will bore some of you with sharing maintenance issues.
If you choose to buy an Amel, you will be among the 99% that have no regrets. You might ask about the 1%. In my experience with Amel Owners Yacht School, occasionally some people buying an Amel have wrong expectations and these were never corrected before their purchase. The most common wrong expectation is that the parts and systems that are installed on an Amel do not need maintenance and/or a degree of care.
As an example of unrealistic expectations, I am aware of more than a few Amel Super Maramus that are currently sailing with 30-year old Standing Rigging. Thirty years is technically three times the life expectancy of standing rigging wire. Most Amel models are over-rigged, but 30+ years is an unrealistic expectation. I hope this example explains what I am attempting to relate to you in terms of unrealistic expectations.
Bill
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Daniel Alexander Thompson
My standing rigging is forty years old. I'm on my way to Malta, though.
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Alex Lomakin
Dear Bill,
Excellent posting! I wish I received it 2 years ago, just before I bought my SM2000. I did a lot of research and viewed many boats before choosing Amel: so I did not have that many doubts, but, as it was (a) my very first boat and (b) rather serious financial commitment, a message like this would have eliminated a lot of stress. Well done and thank you very much, Alex SV Silver Star SM2000 #416 |
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Bill,
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What a great 👍 note ! I can only reinforce the message. The Amel boat are among the best of the industry for sailing with small crew around the world. As soon as you do the minimum preventive maintenance and care you can sail safely with very little problems only two on board ! On long passage the Amel boats not only are safe but they perform well. In 2019 we crossed the Atlantic with rallye des îles du soleil. An Amel 64 arrived second and two super maramu arrived 3rd and forth in front of all catamaran, RM an Beneteau… This forum and the work done by bill is an extra asset which help you to maintain your boat at hight standards Juan de Zulueta Ophelie X SM 32 French Polynesia Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 7 sept. 2022 à 21:19, Gerhard Mueller via groups.io <carcode@...> a écrit :
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Gerhard Mueller
I second this.
-- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently North Sea, Germany |
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Very well said Bill
thanks
Courtney
Trippin
54#101 -----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Wed, Sep 7, 2022 9:19 am Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New Non-owner Members: Just a short note to all New Non-owner Members of the group.
Our Group now has over 1300 members worldwide. Almost all of our members currently own an Amel. However some of our members, like you, are considering purchasing an Amel. This note is mainly for you guys, but maybe some other owners will add to this.
You are going to see many postings from owners about repairs and maintenance. Let me assure you that this does not mean that an Amel requires a lot of repair and maintenance nor does it mean that an Amel is not made well. In my experience while sailing around the world, I found that I had much more spare time than owners of all other brands. Our Amel SM was engineered in such a way that maintenance was as easy as possible, and systems were selected and installed in such a way that failures were not premature. All marine systems require a degree of care and most have a finite life.
Please take into consideration that the postings almost never include a great sailing passage story because we owners know what to expect and it would be foolish for owners to tell other owners what they know. So, yes, we will bore some of you with sharing maintenance issues.
If you choose to buy an Amel, you will be among the 99% that have no regrets. You might ask about the 1%. In my experience with Amel Owners Yacht School, occasionally some people buying an Amel have wrong expectations and these were never corrected before their purchase. The most common wrong expectation is that the parts and systems that are installed on an Amel do not need maintenance and/or a degree of care.
As an example of unrealistic expectations, I am aware of more than a few Amel Super Maramus that are currently sailing with 30-year old Standing Rigging. Thirty years is technically three times the life expectancy of standing rigging wire. Most Amel models are over-rigged, but 30+ years is an unrealistic expectation. I hope this example explains what I am attempting to relate to you in terms of unrealistic expectations.
Bill
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Just a short note to all New Non-owner Members of the group. Our Group now has over 1300 members worldwide. Almost all of our members currently own an Amel. However some of our members, like you, are considering purchasing an Amel. This note is mainly for you guys, but maybe some other owners will add to this. You are going to see many postings from owners about repairs and maintenance. Let me assure you that this does not mean that an Amel requires a lot of repair and maintenance nor does it mean that an Amel is not made well. In my experience while sailing around the world, I found that I had much more spare time than owners of all other brands. Our Amel SM was engineered in such a way that maintenance was as easy as possible, and systems were selected and installed in such a way that failures were not premature. All marine systems require a degree of care and most have a finite life. Please take into consideration that the postings almost never include a great sailing passage story because we owners know what to expect and it would be foolish for owners to tell other owners what they know. So, yes, we will bore some of you with sharing maintenance issues. If you choose to buy an Amel, you will be among the 99% that have no regrets. You might ask about the 1%. In my experience with Amel Owners Yacht School, occasionally some people buying an Amel have wrong expectations and these were never corrected before their purchase. The most common wrong expectation is that the parts and systems that are installed on an Amel do not need maintenance and/or a degree of care. As an example of unrealistic expectations, I am aware of more than a few Amel Super Maramus that are currently sailing with 30-year old Standing Rigging. Thirty years is technically three times the life expectancy of standing rigging wire. Most Amel models are over-rigged, but 30+ years is an unrealistic expectation. I hope this example explains what I am attempting to relate to you in terms of unrealistic expectations. Bill
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