For music listeners on Amel 54 and more recent models


Arno Luijten
 

Hi Peter,

She (the cat) is a very cute cat. She crossed the ocean twice (airplane & Amel) twice before she was a year old!

Cheers,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Peter Forbes
 

Cool cat.

Peter

Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory 
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
07836 209730

On 14 Mar 2023, at 06:14, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

Hi Philippe,

Although Im not a big fan of Garmin as a brand the Fusion-line of radios is a nice choice. This one has a touch screen, 4 stereo channels (2 with amplification and 2 line-out channels). It has some specific boat characteristics like storing preferences even if power (12 volt) is completely off. The Bose Acoustimass 2+1 has no internal amplification and relies on the amplifiers in the radio. I added a separate slave amplifier to drive the Bose set I installed in the master cabin. Some Amel 54s have this set factory installed but I think in this case it uses a separate radio-unit in the master cabin.
So for us we have three pair of speakers (Salon, Cockpit and Master cabin) with the master cabin utilizing a slave amplifier behind the mirror at the vanity in the master cabin.
In the cockpit we replaced the horrible speakers Amel installed with a few 4 inch models from the brand “Kicker” (ignore the cat in the picture). There are very few 4 inch models with decent sound quality. The Fusion brand has a few as well but the (sound)quality of the Fusion speakers Fusion is quite poor. Putting the speakers in the cockpit does mean you need to slightly enlarge the hole available but they do fit nicely in the end.
You can even add DAB+ to the radio (digital radio) if you live in an area when this is available. For the USA they offer a Sirius receiver. The power output of the radio is adequate for the Bose speakers. It connects to a a network and you can have an app on your phone to control the radio.

Regards,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

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Philippe Moreau
 

Hi Arno,

These are precisely the answers I was looking for. Thank you so much. 

Philippe 

Le 14 mars 2023 à 06:14, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> a écrit :

Hi Philippe,

Although Im not a big fan of Garmin as a brand the Fusion-line of radios is a nice choice. This one has a touch screen, 4 stereo channels (2 with amplification and 2 line-out channels). It has some specific boat characteristics like storing preferences even if power (12 volt) is completely off. The Bose Acoustimass 2+1 has no internal amplification and relies on the amplifiers in the radio. I added a separate slave amplifier to drive the Bose set I installed in the master cabin. Some Amel 54s have this set factory installed but I think in this case it uses a separate radio-unit in the master cabin.
So for us we have three pair of speakers (Salon, Cockpit and Master cabin) with the master cabin utilizing a slave amplifier behind the mirror at the vanity in the master cabin.
In the cockpit we replaced the horrible speakers Amel installed with a few 4 inch models from the brand “Kicker” (ignore the cat in the picture). There are very few 4 inch models with decent sound quality. The Fusion brand has a few as well but the (sound)quality of the Fusion speakers Fusion is quite poor. Putting the speakers in the cockpit does mean you need to slightly enlarge the hole available but they do fit nicely in the end.
You can even add DAB+ to the radio (digital radio) if you live in an area when this is available. For the USA they offer a Sirius receiver. The power output of the radio is adequate for the Bose speakers. It connects to a a network and you can have an app on your phone to control the radio.

Regards,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

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Philippe M


Arno Luijten
 

Hi Philippe,

Although Im not a big fan of Garmin as a brand the Fusion-line of radios is a nice choice. This one has a touch screen, 4 stereo channels (2 with amplification and 2 line-out channels). It has some specific boat characteristics like storing preferences even if power (12 volt) is completely off. The Bose Acoustimass 2+1 has no internal amplification and relies on the amplifiers in the radio. I added a separate slave amplifier to drive the Bose set I installed in the master cabin. Some Amel 54s have this set factory installed but I think in this case it uses a separate radio-unit in the master cabin.
So for us we have three pair of speakers (Salon, Cockpit and Master cabin) with the master cabin utilizing a slave amplifier behind the mirror at the vanity in the master cabin.
In the cockpit we replaced the horrible speakers Amel installed with a few 4 inch models from the brand “Kicker” (ignore the cat in the picture). There are very few 4 inch models with decent sound quality. The Fusion brand has a few as well but the (sound)quality of the Fusion speakers Fusion is quite poor. Putting the speakers in the cockpit does mean you need to slightly enlarge the hole available but they do fit nicely in the end.
You can even add DAB+ to the radio (digital radio) if you live in an area when this is available. For the USA they offer a Sirius receiver. The power output of the radio is adequate for the Bose speakers. It connects to a a network and you can have an app on your phone to control the radio.

Regards,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121



Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

Hi Philippe
If your Bose speakers are not active (amplified) you will need a radio with power amplifiers or a separate amplifier.
I opted for an Alpine car radio with Bluetooth, USB socket, Aux input and remote control.  This allows me to connect in any way to a cell phone, pen drive, hard drive or pc.
But if you have powerful and hard to drive speakers you will probably need a more powerful separate amplifier.
Another solution would be to buy a compact hifi with everything built in, CD drive, radio, Bluetooth, etc with adequate power for your speakers, powered at 120/220V with a good quality inverter to avoid background noise.

Greetings!
Giorgio - Saudade III Sharki #1
Les Saints, Guadeloupe 


   


Il Lun 13 Mar 2023, 18:05 Philippe Moreau <philippe.j.moreau@...> ha scritto:

Hi Arno,
We recently acquired our 54 and the radio was not functioning. I intend to replace it with one that has Bluetooth. But I wonder if there is any kind of additional amplification between the radio and the BOSE. Any information would be welcomed.
Fair winds

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Philippe M
A54 #16 BABYPHONE 


Philippe Moreau
 

Hi Arno,
We recently acquired our 54 and the radio was not functioning. I intend to replace it with one that has Bluetooth. But I wonder if there is any kind of additional amplification between the radio and the BOSE. Any information would be welcomed.
Fair winds

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Philippe M
A54 #16 BABYPHONE 


Arno Luijten
 

Hi Mohammad,

Yes the speakers come as a set. You can discard the high-pass filter that is supplied with the tweeters as this is already present in the bass module.

Kind regards,

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121
Rotterdam


Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks for the information Arno. Just ordered. The eBay store I found to ship to the US was unclear whether it included one or two speakers. I’m assuming that Pioneer Speaker Carrozzeria TS-T730-2 includes two speakers. Can you please confirm.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Luijten via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2022 3:36 AM
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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] For music listeners on Amel 54 and more recent models

 

Dear Forum,

Many  of the Amels carry a Bose Acoustimass speaker system, either the 2+1 or 4+1 system. Although a good choice of Amel given the space it requires, Bose has this strange thing I always found with Bose in which they seem to think that the higher frequencies (trebles) of music are of no relevance. In other words higher frequencies are almost non-existent in the soundstage of the Acoustimass.
It annoyed me quite a bit as I'm used to speakers that do not suffer from this problem. To improve this I made a simple addition that makes a big difference in the sound quality of the system. By no means I will pretend this is a "audiophile" solution but the clarity of music really improves.
It involves ordering two tune-up tweeters from Pioneer via eBay. This model is not available in Europe or the USA but via eBay you can simply order it in Japan.
 See the enclosed picture for the model and they way I added it to the satellite speakers. No drilling, just stick them to the satellite speaker (de-grease the speaker first!). The cable is shortened to something like 10-15 cm and connected in parallel to the Bose satellite (just stick the the cable with the other cable in the back of the satellite speaker). Do mind the positive and negative leads though.

The tweeter-set is around 150 euro and mounting it takes 1 or 2 hours as the mounting studs of the Bose are a bit finicky with hard to reach screws.

(https://www.ebay.nl/itm/403968632042?hash=item5e0e6824ea:g:xOYAAOSw9m1h9mfx&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAABAHTm%2FzNZgaKjfaoV0wzcr5MRpTL1rKiISBo8At406XIT8283eHdLfJPQTFhAEI8w2pE4Wt0e5oGgKSF8AOKhUsb%2BILkKrKc12s46%2FJAuUzJGbH%2BW63P7KehvShK%2Fk4CbNC5Jg8vhkI99J5d6zs4%2BXJ%2Bso3Y5RUkJDo2L8Kl1%2BNy2kFqsaa0ja%2BtDEl189qagfIPXP%2BIBJmlE%2B4iJZIRVaSIIKcpCP6L%2FqHzNbjQaWWwx1gwCTOKly%2FxBRkPiaak%2BAWUad%2BKJqWZpFEcW%2FHL0Gyu4b6cExlewUdP9VcWDXBdOTvoRh95WX3DUUjeOV9wpSLFvQSEeOSDWZOct%2FfiysoE%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8C91_WIYQ)

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Arno Luijten
 

Dear Forum,

Many  of the Amels carry a Bose Acoustimass speaker system, either the 2+1 or 4+1 system. Although a good choice of Amel given the space it requires, Bose has this strange thing I always found with Bose in which they seem to think that the higher frequencies (trebles) of music are of no relevance. In other words higher frequencies are almost non-existent in the soundstage of the Acoustimass.
It annoyed me quite a bit as I'm used to speakers that do not suffer from this problem. To improve this I made a simple addition that makes a big difference in the sound quality of the system. By no means I will pretend this is a "audiophile" solution but the clarity of music really improves.
It involves ordering two tune-up tweeters from Pioneer via eBay. This model is not available in Europe or the USA but via eBay you can simply order it in Japan.
 See the enclosed picture for the model and they way I added it to the satellite speakers. No drilling, just stick them to the satellite speaker (de-grease the speaker first!). The cable is shortened to something like 10-15 cm and connected in parallel to the Bose satellite (just stick the the cable with the other cable in the back of the satellite speaker). Do mind the positive and negative leads though.

The tweeter-set is around 150 euro and mounting it takes 1 or 2 hours as the mounting studs of the Bose are a bit finicky with hard to reach screws.

(https://www.ebay.nl/itm/403968632042?hash=item5e0e6824ea:g:xOYAAOSw9m1h9mfx&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAABAHTm%2FzNZgaKjfaoV0wzcr5MRpTL1rKiISBo8At406XIT8283eHdLfJPQTFhAEI8w2pE4Wt0e5oGgKSF8AOKhUsb%2BILkKrKc12s46%2FJAuUzJGbH%2BW63P7KehvShK%2Fk4CbNC5Jg8vhkI99J5d6zs4%2BXJ%2Bso3Y5RUkJDo2L8Kl1%2BNy2kFqsaa0ja%2BtDEl189qagfIPXP%2BIBJmlE%2B4iJZIRVaSIIKcpCP6L%2FqHzNbjQaWWwx1gwCTOKly%2FxBRkPiaak%2BAWUad%2BKJqWZpFEcW%2FHL0Gyu4b6cExlewUdP9VcWDXBdOTvoRh95WX3DUUjeOV9wpSLFvQSEeOSDWZOct%2FfiysoE%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8C91_WIYQ)

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121