Mizzen traveller solution


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

After years if being irritated by having to go onto the aft deck to adjust the mizzen traveller I finally got a solution that is simple and doesn't break the bank. And no holes in the deck  and retains the option of the Amel pin.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl


VICTOR MOLERO
 

Hello Danny. I am very much interested in implementing this solution in our Super Maramu. When you say "no holes on deck", how do you fix the pulleys that send the lines to the cockpit? Any more details about the installation that you can provide will be very helpful. Thanks in advance. Victor. SM 314 Alendoy


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Victor, the turning blocks are secured to the traveller rail by drilling into the rail, tapping the hole and securing with bolts. The car had an 8mm sheave at one end which I used. The other end has the spring loaded pin. I could have removed that and put a sheave in its place but chose to leave it there and use a small external block instead. For now I am using the T cleats either side of the deck but am considering adding some form of jam cleat mounted on topi of the tee cleat. Again to avoid drilling holes on deck. But so far the tee cleat has been easy and effective and who could ask for more. A lot of my delay was caused by being unable to find a suitable turning block off the shelf. A local rigger made those for me. If you look closely you will see the turning blocks are mounted on a spacer to lft the line above the deck.
I am very happy with it all.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl 

On 13/12/2022 08:01 NZDT VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Danny. I am very much interested in implementing this solution in our Super Maramu. When you say "no holes on deck", how do you fix the pulleys that send the lines to the cockpit? Any more details about the installation that you can provide will be very helpful. Thanks in advance. Victor. SM 314 Alendoy


VICTOR MOLERO
 

Thank you so much for the clarifications. I will follow your lead in this. 
Best.
Victor 
SM314 Alendoy


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

 
Thats great Victor. I am sure you will be happy with the system.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
 
On 13/12/2022 08:45 NZDT VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:
 
 
Thank you so much for the clarifications. I will follow your lead in this. 
Best.
Victor 
SM314 Alendoy


Nicolas Klene
 

Hello Danny
What a simple & clever solution ! I like it and will try to implement it !
Are the turning blocks of the shelf parts ? Any more info would be appreciated 
Kind regards
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille 🇫🇷


Andreas Irion
 

Hello to All

I realized a similar solution to improve my mizzen traveller on our SM #194.  I ordered two double sheave turning blocks from ANTAL in Italy and mounted them instead of the end parts of the rail. Additionally two one sheave blocks  at each side of the car. Fixing the two lines at the edge of the aft deck to cockpit bulkhead withe two clamcleats. Fotos at zhe moment not available but end of January if anyone ist interested. 

Greetings to all - Andreas Irion 

SM #194 FORTUNA 
Carloforte, South Sardinia


 


Larry Brown
 
Edited

Very cool. After sailing on an Amel54 I was very surprised to find that the mizzen's traveler was not controllable from the cockpit like everything else. These are clever ideas!


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Nicolas, 
A lot of my delay was caused by being unable to find a suitable turning block off the shelf. A local rigger made those for me. If you look closely you will see the turning blocks are mounted on a spacer to lift the line above the deck.
The turning blocks are secured to the traveler rail by drilling into the rail, tapping the hole and securing with bolts. The car had an 8mm sheave at one end which I used. The other end has the spring loaded pin. I could have removed that and put a sheave in its place but chose to leave it there and use a small external block instead. For now I am using the T cleats either side of the deck but am considering adding some form of jam cleat mounted on top of the tee cleat. Again to avoid drilling holes on deck. But so far the tee cleat has been easy and effective and who could ask for more. 
I am very happy with it all.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl 

On 13/12/2022 22:19 NZDT Nicolas Klene via groups.io <laixoi@...> wrote:
 
 
Hello Danny
What a simple & clever solution ! I like it and will try to implement it !
Are the turning blocks of the shelf parts ? Any more info would be appreciated 
Kind regards
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille 🇫🇷


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Andreas, same solution, slightly differently achieved. I look forward to your photos.
Danny

On 14/12/2022 00:14 NZDT Andreas Irion via groups.io <andreas.irion@...> wrote:
 
 

Hello to All

I realized a similar solution to improve my mizzen traveller on our SM #194.  I ordered two double sheave turning blocks from ANTAL in Italy and mounted them instead of the end parts of the rail. Additionally two one sheave blocks  at each side of the car. Fixing the two lines at the edge of the aft deck to cockpit bulkhead withe two clamcleats. Fotos at zhe moment not available but end of January if anyone ist interested. 

Greetings to all - Andreas Irion 

SM #194 FORTUNA 
Carloforte, South Sardinia


 


Bill Kinney
 

We made this modification years ago, using a slightly more “Amel-like” solution.  It is described in detail here.   Our inspiration was a single photo of one of the last SM made which had this modification from the factory.



We used an Andersen line tender as the control to match in style the Amel systems used on the Super Maramu.  This particular piece of kit is no longer manufactured, but as similar part is available from Antal.  I have installed this on other Amels and it works quite well. All of the parts needed to manage the control lines are readily available from Lewmar, no custom parts are needed. The Lewmar block for the Size 0 traveler have a maximum line size of 8mm, but  a minimum of 10 (better 12) is needed for the line tender, so our control line is in two pieces to accommodate this.

The ability to control the mizzen traveler from the cockpit is a game-changer for this boat.  It makes the mizzen much more useful as a sailing tool, and of course eliminates the need to crawl out on the aft deck to make trim adjustments.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Le Marin, Martinique.


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bill, I like the line tender system and did consider it. I went with my system for simplicity, low cost and no new holes in the deck. Also we often have our rear cockpit curtains down behind the mizzen which would make the line tender inaccessible and that was the issue which decided me.
Kind Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 15/12/2022 03:06 NZDT Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:
 
 
We made this modification years ago, using a slightly more “Amel-like” solution.  It is described in detail here.   Our inspiration was a single photo of one of the last SM made which had this modification from the factory.



We used an Andersen line tender as the control to match in style the Amel systems used on the Super Maramu.  This particular piece of kit is no longer manufactured, but as similar part is available from Antal.  I have installed this on other Amels and it works quite well. All of the parts needed to manage the control lines are readily available from Lewmar, no custom parts are needed. The Lewmar block for the Size 0 traveler have a maximum line size of 8mm, but  a minimum of 10 (better 12) is needed for the line tender, so our control line is in two pieces to accommodate this.

The ability to control the mizzen traveler from the cockpit is a game-changer for this boat.  It makes the mizzen much more useful as a sailing tool, and of course eliminates the need to crawl out on the aft deck to make trim adjustments.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Le Marin, Martinique.


Alan Leslie
 

Hi Bill,

What size line did you use on your mizzen traveller setup? looks like 6 or 8mm maybe?
Thanks for your advice
Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437