ER lining


David Vogel
 

Hi Paul

My ER lining also started to sag. It was re-affixed with standard contact adhesive, with good adhesion in the immediate aftermath, but then it soon started to sag again.

I suspect that the adhesive was being affected by elevated temperatures in the engine room, which occurred due to an intermittent exhaust fan, itself caused by a dodgy start capacitor. Also affected over an extended interval were the end-caps and interconnector for the watermaker HP tubes, the ER lights (bright CREE LEDs, which do naturally run warm), the sealant for the access hatches to the fuel tank going soft, and so on, all of which needed attention in one form or another. I subsequently put all these things down to excessive heat-soak in the engine room.

In my case, once the exhaust fan was returned to 100% service, re-application with a high-quality contact adhesive has seen no further problems with the ER liner. And the mysterious run of other 'issues' in the engine room now returned to a dull roar - just the normal hose clamps, and normal service items thus far.

I would be taking this lagging of the ER lining as a warning sign, and investigating to see if a cause can be determined.

Best,

David
SM#396, Perigee
And a Happy New Year to All


From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
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Date: Friday, 3 February 2023 at 2:15 am
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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] ER lining

Hi all,

Regarding the insulation lining at the top of the engine room, this is sagging quite a bit along the port side, basically the area under the port cockpit locker. I believe an easier, and more permanent solution, rather than removing and re-gluing, would be to screw a couple of batons, either ply or stainless, to prevent it from sagging. So my question is, would anyone know the thickness of the material into which the screws would go. It does seem to be essentially the bottom of the locker.

Cheers,
Paul

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Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks all for your feedback. I’ll keep you posted.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ruslan Osmonov
Sent: 02 February 2023 11:15
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] ER lining

 

Paul, I was thinking of using thin tubes and insert them in places and in a round motion spray glue. It’s like WD40 with tube that you insert to splay in hard to get places. These small holes should become “invisible”. 

I did not do it, but thinking that it may be done this way and should less intrusive. Just a thought. 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 8:15 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Regarding the insulation lining at the top of the engine room, this is sagging quite a bit along the port side, basically the area under the port cockpit locker. I believe an easier, and more permanent solution, rather than removing and re-gluing, would be to screw a couple of batons, either ply or stainless, to prevent it from sagging. So my question is, would anyone know the thickness of the material into which the screws would go. It does seem to be essentially the bottom of the locker.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown

S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
tel: +44 (0)7710 466619

skype: pauldowd
web:
https://my.yb.tl/yafohi

 


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Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

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Phantom, A54 #44


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Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


 

I think that I would cut a 1" slit, ensuring it is not deeper than 1" from fore to aft into the foam, then glue a 25mm batten into the slit. A new very sharp serrated blade is best.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 9:15 AM Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:
Paul, I was thinking of using thin tubes and insert them in places and in a round motion spray glue. It’s like WD40 with tube that you insert to splay in hard to get places. These small holes should become “invisible”. 
I did not do it, but thinking that it may be done this way and should less intrusive. Just a thought. 
 

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 8:15 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Regarding the insulation lining at the top of the engine room, this is sagging quite a bit along the port side, basically the area under the port cockpit locker. I believe an easier, and more permanent solution, rather than removing and re-gluing, would be to screw a couple of batons, either ply or stainless, to prevent it from sagging. So my question is, would anyone know the thickness of the material into which the screws would go. It does seem to be essentially the bottom of the locker.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown

S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
tel: +44 (0)7710 466619

skype: pauldowd
web:
https://my.yb.tl/yafohi

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

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Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phantom, A54 #44


Ruslan Osmonov
 

Paul, I was thinking of using thin tubes and insert them in places and in a round motion spray glue. It’s like WD40 with tube that you insert to splay in hard to get places. These small holes should become “invisible”. 
I did not do it, but thinking that it may be done this way and should less intrusive. Just a thought. 
 

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 8:15 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Regarding the insulation lining at the top of the engine room, this is sagging quite a bit along the port side, basically the area under the port cockpit locker. I believe an easier, and more permanent solution, rather than removing and re-gluing, would be to screw a couple of batons, either ply or stainless, to prevent it from sagging. So my question is, would anyone know the thickness of the material into which the screws would go. It does seem to be essentially the bottom of the locker.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown

S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
tel: +44 (0)7710 466619

skype: pauldowd
web:
https://my.yb.tl/yafohi

 


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Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

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Ruslan Osmonov
Phantom, A54 #44


Porter McRoberts
 

Precisely my same conclusion Paul. Perhaps a small/flush backing plate if the locker is violated.  That’s the best solution as the foam is moderately deformed from gravity, re-glueing is an auto of frustration.
Following with interest.
Thank you.
Porter A54-152
IBIS


On Feb 2, 2023, at 8:15 AM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,
 
Regarding the insulation lining at the top of the engine room, this is sagging quite a bit along the port side, basically the area under the port cockpit locker. I believe an easier, and more permanent solution, rather than removing and re-gluing, would be to screw a couple of batons, either ply or stainless, to prevent it from sagging. So my question is, would anyone know the thickness of the material into which the screws would go. It does seem to be essentially the bottom of the locker.
 
Cheers,
Paul
 
Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown
S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
tel: +44 (0)7710 466619
skype: pauldowd 
web: 
https://my.yb.tl/yafohi
 

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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

 

Regarding the insulation lining at the top of the engine room, this is sagging quite a bit along the port side, basically the area under the port cockpit locker. I believe an easier, and more permanent solution, rather than removing and re-gluing, would be to screw a couple of batons, either ply or stainless, to prevent it from sagging. So my question is, would anyone know the thickness of the material into which the screws would go. It does seem to be essentially the bottom of the locker.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown

S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
tel: +44 (0)7710 466619

skype: pauldowd
web:
https://my.yb.tl/yafohi

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98