A54 Black Water tank hoses replacement


Ruslan Osmonov
 

Hi, did anyone replace black water tank hoses on A54? 
One problem I see is that the tank to seacock hose is very rigid and it does not look like I can bend it to put on the tank and the seacock. Plus there is not much space to get both hands in...
Is there some trick to it?  
Do you know the brand and possibly where to source it, preferably in USA.  

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Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


 

I think you should post a photo because this is how the A54 was when new.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 8:40 AM Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:
Hi, did anyone replace black water tank hoses on A54? 
One problem I see is that the tank to seacock hose is very rigid and it does not look like I can bend it to put on the tank and the seacock. Plus there is not much space to get both hands in...
Is there some trick to it?  
Do you know the brand and possibly where to source it, preferably in USA.  

--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Ruslan Osmonov
 

Hi Bill, I mean these hoses for black water discharge. 



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Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


 

This is step 7 of the attached:

With a heat gun, heat both ends of the hose back about 3 inches, then unscrew the valve. Once it is unscrewed, you should be able to pull the hose loose from either end as long as the end is still hot.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 9:59 AM Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:

Hi Bill, I mean these hoses for black water discharge. 



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Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Ruslan Osmonov
 

Now with the image. 

Bill, I'm not sure what do you mean by unscrew the valve. It seems laminated in place. 
so while the hose is heated it will be more flexible and I can bend it to stick both ends? 


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Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Ruslan

Is there any specific reason why you want to change this house, unless it is leaking? Or is the lifespan reached with about 15 year’s? 

Best Regards
Ruedi & Sabina
Wasabi A54#55
Meganisi Greece 


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 06.06.2022 um 19:09 schrieb Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...>:

Now with the image. 

Bill, I'm not sure what do you mean by unscrew the valve. It seems laminated in place. 
so while the hose is heated it will be more flexible and I can bend it to stick both ends? 

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Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Ruslan Osmonov
 

It permeates the poop smell and you can smell it in forward cabin and head. Here you cannot discharge black water tank, only pump out, so as you can imagine all solids come down and stay in that hose.

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Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


 

Did you read the document?

Before that step is cutting/chipping away the fiberglass resin at the bottom of the valve and loosening the clamps. 

Then unscrew the valve. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2022, 11:08 Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:
Now with the image. 

Bill, I'm not sure what do you mean by unscrew the valve. It seems laminated in place. 
so while the hose is heated it will be more flexible and I can bend it to stick both ends? 


--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Craig Briggs
 

Hi Rusian,
Yes, all black water hose will become permeated with bad smells after time and you clearly do not need to replace the ball valve.

A much better option, and what I did many years ago, is replace all the hose sections with PVC pipe. It completely eliminates all odors forever. Use rubber couplings to connect the PVC to the through-hull and tank, which eliminates any vibration issues and makes installation a snap. The rubber couplings come in all sizes you might need, from straight and reducing couplings to "Y" connectors (it looks like you would only need two straight couplings for your fix). "FERNCO" seems a major supplier and Amazon has a full line of several brands. For other than straight runs, you can assemble PVC components ("Y"s, "T"s, Elbows, etc) as needed and then use the rubber couplings at the ends as needed. 

After many years, if the flow is decreased by salts building up in the pipes (just as it does inside of hoses), it is a simple task to disconnect the PVC sections, clean the salts out with acid and reassemble.
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Fair and sweet smelling winds, -
Craig Briggs - s/v Sangaris / SN68  Tropic Isle Harbor, FL