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karkauai
I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again. I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel. Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow. John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket. Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.
I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else?
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?
John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?
Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc
Kent
SM243
Kristy
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Kent,
I believe the difference between what is available today in D profile gaskets and what was available to Amel when the SM was made is that gasket manufacturers have changed the density of the neoprene foam used to make the gasket, thereby lowering their material costs, which enables them to lower resale costs, which is the number one thing demanded by buyers. Get it?
That said and assuming I am correct, 1-inch half round gaskets in the configuration of D with a 3/16 hole down the center may be the best solution. Direct me to the source, and I will investigate further.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
D Profile with a large hole in the center.
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1 inch height? 25mmX25mm (25mm = 0.984252")
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else? I think they are
neoprene foam
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners? Amel inserted a round piece of solid neoprene foam about 10cm long and about Ø12-15mm inside the D gasket at the corners. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again. I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel. Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow. John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket. Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.
I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else?
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?
John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?
Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc
Kent
SM243
Kristy
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Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 8:02 AM CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Kent,
I believe the difference between what is available today in D profile gaskets and what was available to Amel when the SM was made is that gasket manufacturers have changed the density of the neoprene foam used to make the gasket, thereby lowering their material costs, which enables them to lower resale costs, which is the number one thing demanded by buyers. Get it?
That said and assuming I am correct, 1-inch half round gaskets in the configuration of D with a 3/16 hole down the center may be the best solution. Direct me to the source, and I will investigate further.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
D Profile with a large hole in the center.
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1 inch height? 25mmX25mm (25mm = 0.984252")
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else? I think they are
neoprene foam
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners? Amel inserted a round piece of solid neoprene foam about 10cm long and about Ø12-15mm inside the D gasket at the corners. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again. I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel. Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow. John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket. Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.
I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else?
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?
John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?
Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc
Kent
SM243
Kristy
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Hi Bill and Kent. I would suspect it is the D with the large hole but the is an opinion from my office chair. Ill be on the boat later and Ill look. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 04 August 2019 at 06:02 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Kent,
I believe the difference between what is available today in D profile gaskets and what was available to Amel when the SM was made is that gasket manufacturers have changed the density of the neoprene foam used to make the gasket, thereby lowering their material costs, which enables them to lower resale costs, which is the number one thing demanded by buyers. Get it?
That said and assuming I am correct, 1-inch half round gaskets in the configuration of D with a 3/16 hole down the center may be the best solution. Direct me to the source, and I will investigate further.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
D Profile with a large hole in the center.
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1 inch height? 25mmX25mm (25mm = 0.984252")
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else? I think they are neoprene foam
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners? Amel inserted a round piece of solid neoprene foam about 10cm long and about Ø12-15mm inside the D gasket at the corners. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again. I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel. Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow. John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket. Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.
I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else?
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?
John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?
Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc
Kent
SM243
Kristy
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Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 8:02 AM CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Kent,
I believe the difference between what is available today in D profile gaskets and what was available to Amel when the SM was made is that gasket manufacturers have changed the density of the neoprene foam used to make the gasket, thereby lowering their material costs, which enables them to lower resale costs, which is the number one thing demanded by buyers. Get it?
That said and assuming I am correct, 1-inch half round gaskets in the configuration of D with a 3/16 hole down the center may be the best solution. Direct me to the source, and I will investigate further.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
D Profile with a large hole in the center.
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1 inch height? 25mmX25mm (25mm = 0.984252")
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else? I think they are
neoprene foam
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners? Amel inserted a round piece of solid neoprene foam about 10cm long and about Ø12-15mm inside the D gasket at the corners. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again. I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel. Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow. John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket. Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.
I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else?
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?
John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?
Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc
Kent
SM243
Kristy
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Thank you for the info.
Steve
On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 8:02 AM CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Kent,
I believe the difference between what is available today in D profile gaskets and what was available to Amel when the SM was made is that gasket manufacturers have changed the density of the neoprene foam used to make the gasket, thereby lowering their material costs, which enables them to lower resale costs, which is the number one thing demanded by buyers. Get it?
That said and assuming I am correct, 1-inch half round gaskets in the configuration of D with a 3/16 hole down the center may be the best solution. Direct me to the source, and I will investigate further.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
D Profile with a large hole in the center.
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1 inch height? 25mmX25mm (25mm = 0.984252")
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else? I think they are
neoprene foam
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners? Amel inserted a round piece of solid neoprene foam about 10cm long and about Ø12-15mm inside the D gasket at the corners. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again. I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel. Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow. John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket. Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.
I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.
Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?
Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?
What material are they? Neoprene? Something else?
What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?
John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?
Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc
Kent
SM243
Kristy
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karkauai
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819
On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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Hi Kent and Bill. I checked on Ocean Pearl today and all the hatch seals unquestionably have the large hole in the center Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 04 August 2019 at 20:11 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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karkauai
Thanks Danny, are they half-round ie 1” x 1/2”, or taller ie 1” x 1”? Kent Robertson S/V Kristy SM 243
On Aug 4, 2019, at 5:30 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:
Hi Kent and Bill. I checked on Ocean Pearl today and all the hatch seals unquestionably have the large hole in the center Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 04 August 2019 at 20:11 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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Kent,
If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
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Let me know what they say
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML
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http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: Kent,
If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
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B
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CATALOG
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Base Width
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Wall
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Open Height
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Base T
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Total Height
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Radius
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CACD240
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Let me know what they say
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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Hi Kent I'll measure today, but they are wider than higher but of course they've had a lot of years of compression. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 05 August 2019 at 01:37 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Thanks Danny, are they half-round ie 1” x 1/2”, or taller ie 1” x 1”?
Kent Robertson S/V Kristy SM 243 On Aug 4, 2019, at 5:30 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote: Hi Kent and Bill. I checked on Ocean Pearl today and all the hatch seals unquestionably have the large hole in the center Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 04 August 2019 at 20:11 "karkauai via Groups.Io" < karkauai@...> wrote:
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl Regards Danny SM 299 Ocen Pearl
On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: Kent,
If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
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Letter
(See Above) | CATALOG
NUMBER | Base Width | Wall | Open Height | Base T | Total Height | Radius | B | CACD240 | 1" | 1/8" | 9/16" | 5/16" | 1" | - | | | | | | | | | | | |
Let me know what they say
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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Alan Leslie
Ours look more like A
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
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Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile.
That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.
Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:
I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl Regards Danny SM 299 Ocen Pearl On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: Kent,
If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
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A
| B | C | D | E | R | Figure
Letter
(See Above) | CATALOG
NUMBER | Base Width | Wall | Open Height | Base T | Total Height | Radius | B | CACD240 | 1" | 1/8" | 9/16" | 5/16" | 1" | - | | | | | | | | | | | |
Let me know what they say
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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The important thing is that the material should not be so firm and high that it stresses the hinges and will latch down evenly. Too thick or firm would make stress and uneven compression that could lead to leaks. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 05 August 2019 at 08:10 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile.
That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.
Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote: I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl Regards Danny SM 299 Ocen Pearl On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: Kent,
If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
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A
| B | C | D | E | R | Figure
Letter
(See Above) | CATALOG
NUMBER | Base Width | Wall | Open Height | Base T | Total Height | Radius | B | CACD240 | 1" | 1/8" | 9/16" | 5/16" | 1" | - | | | | | | | | | | | |
Let me know what they say
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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karkauai
I’ll call in the morning. Just to be sure, the height of the original gasket is 1” or 25mm, correct? Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819
On Aug 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:
The important thing is that the material should not be so firm and high that it stresses the hinges and will latch down evenly. Too thick or firm would make stress and uneven compression that could lead to leaks. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 05 August 2019 at 08:10 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile.
That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.
Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote: I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl Regards Danny SM 299 Ocen Pearl On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: Kent,
If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
| |
A
| B | C | D | E | R | Figure
Letter
(See Above) | CATALOG
NUMBER | Base Width | Wall | Open Height | Base T | Total Height | Radius | B | CACD240 | 1" | 1/8" | 9/16" | 5/16" | 1" | - | | | | | | | | | | | |
Let me know what they say
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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Kent,
Yes. 1" or 25mm Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
I’ll call in the morning. Just to be sure, the height of the original gasket is 1” or 25mm, correct? Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:
The important thing is that the material should not be so firm and high that it stresses the hinges and will latch down evenly. Too thick or firm would make stress and uneven compression that could lead to leaks. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 05 August 2019 at 08:10 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile.
That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.
Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote: I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl Regards Danny SM 299 Ocen Pearl On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: Kent,
If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
| |
A
| B | C | D | E | R | Figure
Letter
(See Above) | CATALOG
NUMBER | Base Width | Wall | Open Height | Base T | Total Height | Radius | B | CACD240 | 1" | 1/8" | 9/16" | 5/16" | 1" | - | | | | | | | | | | | |
Let me know what they say
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).
I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote: Steve,
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber.
EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.
Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.
It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
How does this product look using the BT Tape?
Regards, Steve Aloha SM72
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Hi Kent, What gasket did you find for this job? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2019 4:10 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile. That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer. Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote: I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl Regards Danny SM 299 Ocen Pearl On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote: I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML Best, Galveston Island, TX 77550 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240: | |
A
| B | C | D | E | R | Figure
Letter
(See Above) | CATALOG
NUMBER | Base Width | Wall | Open Height | Base T | Total Height | Radius | B | CACD240 | 1" | 1/8" | 9/16" | 5/16" | 1" | - | | | | | | | | | | |
Let me know what they say Best, Galveston Island, TX 77550 Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”). I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.
On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large. Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best. It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best, Galveston Island, TX 77550 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: How does this product look using the BT Tape?
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karkauai
I ordered from Amel, I haven’t received it yet, but Maud had several kinds. I described what was originally installed and she said she’d send what appears to be the same. It’s a D with all the walls the same, about 5mm thick all the way. She didn’t know anything about the cylindrical piece that was described as placed into the D seals at the corners, and said they don’t have anything like that.
When I get it, I’ll take some pics and try to describe the material and compressibility. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy SM243
On Sep 12, 2019, at 8:38 PM, eric freedman < kimberlite@...> wrote: Hi Kent, What gasket did you find for this job? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2019 4:10 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile. That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer. Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote: I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl Regards Danny SM 299 Ocen Pearl On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote: I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML Best, Galveston Island, TX 77550 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240: | |
A
| B | C | D | E | R | Figure
Letter
(See Above) | CATALOG
NUMBER | Base Width | Wall | Open Height | Base T | Total Height | Radius | B | CACD240 | 1" | 1/8" | 9/16" | 5/16" | 1" | - | | | | | | | | | | |
Let me know what they say Best, Galveston Island, TX 77550 Here’s the site I was looking at. These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”). I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.
On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large. Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best. It will take about 90' to do everything.
Best, Galveston Island, TX 77550 On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote: How does this product look using the BT Tape?
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