boat remote monitoring


Tauras SM2000 #359 Stella
 

Hi Amelians,
 
What do you use for remote boat monitoring? 
I see needs for: 
- bilge level, bilge pump on, 
- water appearance on the front bilge and the rudder part.
 
- battery status, 
- Moisture and temperature levels (4 Points)
- waste tank levels
 
that's mostly needed while remote, but also would be convenient while on board.
Ideally should be collected to the cloud. I may case the boat is almost 100% online while near the coast.
I have a few cameras onboard, that's relatively simple and cheap to install, but should be some data sensor based solutions.
Technology there changes quickly and there are wide choices with smart house solutions.
I found some "smart boat" solutions also, but very limited scale therefore overpriced for relatively simple service.
Also find some Raspberry pi projects, but that seems a bit DIY. That's not so bad if somebody has success.
Any experience collecting boat data sensors on an ipad is also very helpful.
 


Greg A54 172
 

Nice dream…


Matt Salatino
 

Check out the Victron Cerbo GX or Octo GX. Any of the GX series of interfaces can connect to the internet and using Victron free app you can monitor most of the items you mention from anywhere in the world. We are installing the Octo GX next month, mostly to monitor charging off our new Lithium batteries. We are also installing the Victron Smart Shunt that connects to the GX. Also Solar controllers can be remotely programmed. 


Slavko Despotovic
 

Hi,

I have installed  Victron Cerbo GX a year ago and currently I am monitoring Battery voltage, charging, used Ah... also I measure temperature in engine room, battery compartment temperature, solar panels voltage, charging and so on. There are many other possibilities including  remote control. 
It works very well.
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Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia


Ruslan Osmonov
 

Hi Tauras,

Im sure you heard of Brnkls system. 


Phantom came equipped with Maretron gadgets that let you monitor via cloud or via direct link if you tech savvy, and since it is designed for a boat, you get all those outputs on N2K and you can monitor/switch via N2K network. It is very very nice. Plus power comes via N2K so no need to run extra power cables. 

 

These days I feel that smart home sensors and gadgets are easier/cheaper to use on a boat, but I’m not sure how long they will last, plus you need to have voltage converters and constant figuring out where to tap for power and need for a converter nearby to convert to 12V or 5V.

Although I have a monitoring system onboard. The biggest dilemma I have is to leave the boat with power on, which then need to power N2K, that means all sensors and gadgets are ON, and then obviously WI-FI router ON to offload all data onto the Net. I just don’t feel comfortable leaving the boat for a long time in this condition. I know we got used to leaving home with bunch of devices always ON and don’t worry about fire or other things that much, but I did not cross that level with the boat yet. That’s another thing to consider. 

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Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phantom, A54 #44


Matt & Michelle
 

We installed the Cerbo GX as well after out LFP conversion, since we are away from the boat for extended periods of time.  Currently we have capability to monitor all of the input/output of power (solar, wind, shore power, genset). 

We have gradually added monitoring capability for:
  • Ruuvi temp/humidity/pressure sensors (silly number of them around the boat...but the nerd in me can't help it...they are cheap and replaceable)
  • Water, diesel and propane tankage
  • Bilge on/off byway of digital switching and high water alarm 
We use the Victron VRM app for monitoring all core and accessories.  Data upload is automated and prioritized byway of marina wifi, Starlink, then cellular prepaid.

The trap I have fallen into is monitoring power usage.  With all of the monitoring we have added, I have a constant 19W power draw (add Starlink +50W).  Nothing is free.

Matt  
 


John Clark
 

On Annie I use the Siren Marine system.  It has sensors in all the bilge spaces, monitors pump run cycles battery state and vessel location.  Can be cell or satellite based.   Has internal battery back up.   I think Yamaha bought the company so there should be some financial stability. 

Regards,  John
SV Annie SM 37
St Thomas USVI

On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 7:59 AM Tauras SM2000 #359 Stella <taurasp@...> wrote:
Hi Amelians,
 
What do you use for remote boat monitoring? 
I see needs for: 
- bilge level, bilge pump on, 
- water appearance on the front bilge and the rudder part.
 
- battery status, 
- Moisture and temperature levels (4 Points)
- waste tank levels
 
that's mostly needed while remote, but also would be convenient while on board.
Ideally should be collected to the cloud. I may case the boat is almost 100% online while near the coast.
I have a few cameras onboard, that's relatively simple and cheap to install, but should be some data sensor based solutions.
Technology there changes quickly and there are wide choices with smart house solutions.
I found some "smart boat" solutions also, but very limited scale therefore overpriced for relatively simple service.
Also find some Raspberry pi projects, but that seems a bit DIY. That's not so bad if somebody has success.
Any experience collecting boat data sensors on an ipad is also very helpful.
 


Wolfgang Weber
 

Perhaps you will find some projects here : https://open-boat-projects.org/en/
- keep it simple !

Wolfgang Weber SY ELISE Amel 54 #162 La Rochelle


Tauras SM2000 #359 Stella
 

Thank everybody for such informative answers .
I probably go for Victron Cerbo as a "golden standard" for sailors. It so good to see how many of you already use it. Also the pricing seems reasonable and there are enough sensors to choose. Also allows to "keep it simple". 
Large Victron customer base ensure continuinity. 

Also special thanks for German "open boats" resource. That's amazing - so much creativity there.
I see that's quite inetersting topic. Please keep posted even if you just confirm already said solutions.
Of course most valuables are "lessons learned" if you can prevent us from mistakes.

Tauras 


Dean Gillies
 

+1 for Cerbo GX.
I use it to monitor the battery system, temperatures and bilges while away from the boat, usually around 6 months each year. Very reliable with the VRM platform handling all the communications details between the Cerbo GX and the VRM servers. Needs good internet connectivity on the boat of course. Victron have improved the system significantly in the three years I have used it, and continue to do so. I recently installed a battery/inverter system at home which also uses the Cerbo GX as the guts of the system.
Good luck!

Dean
SV Stella
Amel 54-154





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Dean Gillies
SV Stella *****,  Amel 54-154