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Color code of hull Amel 54


CARINA HAMMARLUND
 

Hi all,
Unfortunately we just got a damage On the hull due to failing equipment in a marina. The marina will cover the cost for repairing it, but we need the color code of the gelgote.

Can any of you please help out with this code? 

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Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165 (Gold line)


 

Unfortunately, all I have with some certainty for the 54 is the Red color which is RAL 3003 Ruby Red. I suggest you ask SAV"@"amel.fr

Also, there are numerous colors on the "hull & deck." You need to be specific. I believe the 54 has 4 separate gelcoat colors. If you get all of these from Amel, please post here and share the information with all 54 owners.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 3:56 AM CARINA HAMMARLUND <syultimo@...> wrote:

Hi all,
Unfortunately we just got a damage On the hull due to failing equipment in a marina. The marina will cover the cost for repairing it, but we need the color code of the gelgote.

Can any of you please help out with this code? 

--
Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165 (Gold line)


Alexander Hofmann
 

Hi Carina,

did know Bruno, the former owner of ULTIMO, a bit, I have had a berth next to him in La Rochelle, and I have spied some good ideas he had had on equipment :-).

Below you find the original answer from CNVP (Societé Naval de Vieux Port) in La Rochelle, they are THE competent company in LR for this, and they have installed an extra bow protection and have made more fiberglass and GelCoat work on SY Oceanica I. The answer to your quenstions is: There is no colour code, makes no sense also, because the colour is changing with the years. Find a real good specilaist on gelcoat, check the actual colour with a spectrometer and let a specialist mix te colour induvidually for you. It is an effort, but the only way to be happy after the repairs!

https://www.chantiernautiqueduvieuxport.com/    contact@... The owners speak French and English

Alexander Hofmann
SY Oceanica I
Amel54#160 (frist Gold line :-) ...)


Google translation of the key sentence: For gelcoat shades, AMEL does not give the references or RALs of their color, but if you need to reproduce the color you have to go through a professional with a color spectrometer (or spectrophotometer).

 

Von: CNVP [] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 11:28 An: 'Alexander' Betreff: RE: SY Oceanica I - gelcoat ...... RE: 2 questions techniques Bonjour Monsieur Hofmann,Merci pour votre compliment, cela fait partie de nos exigences pour nos clients.

Pour les teintes de gelcoat, AMEL ne donne pas les références ou RAL de leur couleur mais si vous avez besoin de reproduire la teinte il faut passer par un professionnel avec un spectromètre (ou spectrophotomètre) de couleur.

 J’espère avoir répondu à votre question. Cordialement Christine BENOIST


Brent Cameron
 

Hi Alexander, I notice in your tag line you sign off with “the first gold line” (Amel 54). Other than updated cosmetics, is there any difference between that and previous Amel 54’s (i.e. like the Red Line Super Maramu’s after 2003)?  Thanks. 

Brent

On Jul 28, 2020, 4:31 AM -0400, Alexander Hofmann <DACJ@...>, wrote:
Hi Carina,

did know Bruno, the former owner of ULTIMO, a bit, I have had a berth next to him in La Rochelle, and I have spied some good ideas he had had on equipment :-).

Below you find the original answer from CNVP (Societé Naval de Vieux Port) in La Rochelle, they are THE competent company in LR for this, and they have installed an extra bow protection and have made more fiberglass and GelCoat work on SY Oceanica I. The answer to your quenstions is: There is no colour code, makes no sense also, because the colour is changing with the years. Find a real good specilaist on gelcoat, check the actual colour with a spectrometer and let a specialist mix te colour induvidually for you. It is an effort, but the only way to be happy after the repairs!

https://www.chantiernautiqueduvieuxport.com/    contact@... The owners speak French and English

Alexander Hofmann
SY Oceanica I
Amel54#160 (frist Gold line :-) ...)


Google translation of the key sentence: For gelcoat shades, AMEL does not give the references or RALs of their color, but if you need to reproduce the color you have to go through a professional with a color spectrometer (or spectrophotometer).

Von: CNVP [] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 11:28 An: 'Alexander' Betreff: RE: SY Oceanica I - gelcoat ...... RE: 2 questions techniques Bonjour Monsieur Hofmann,Merci pour votre compliment, cela fait partie de nos exigences pour nos clients.

Pour les teintes de gelcoat, AMEL ne donne pas les références ou RAL de leur couleur mais si vous avez besoin de reproduire la teinte il faut passer par un professionnel avec un spectromètre (ou spectrophotomètre) de couleur.

 J’espère avoir répondu à votre question. Cordialement Christine BENOIST

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Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


CARINA HAMMARLUND
 

Ji
I received following answer from Maud at Amel.

There is no RAL for the white color of the hull. The only solution is to use a spectrometer and try to find the most approaching tone locally.
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Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165


CARINA HAMMARLUND
 

Thank you for your input Alexander, I received the exact info from Amel. Sounds logic to me when I think about it.


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Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165


 

I agree. Even if you had the original color codes or even a container of the original material, it is not going to match the color of your boat today.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:08 AM CARINA HAMMARLUND <syultimo@...> wrote:
Thank you for your input Alexander, I received the exact info from Amel. Sounds logic to me when I think about it.


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Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165


Craig Briggs
 

Here's an excellent you-tube video on gelcoat color mixing from Boatworks Today, a great blog that covers every aspect of fiberglass repairs. It works!
It's a two part program, this is part 1.
https://www.boatworkstoday.com/videos/gelcoat-color-matching-part-1/
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Craig & Katherine Briggs 
SN 68 Sangaris
Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Alexander Hofmann
 

Hi Brent
This 'Gold Line' has been more or less a design study applied on the A54 for the future Amel boats, that I never would have bought. I rely on the 25 years experience of Amel with Santorin to A54, inorporating tons of experiences of cruising sailors. I have been one of the last üpotential new boat buyers of A54, but the new ones came surpringly fast. So I bought a 3 year old 'gold line'.
I like the design, it is a more mordern and 'younger' touch, but it is not more indeed as a Gold/sand line instead of red and a number of design and light features inside. Nothing concerning basic principes of Amel, saftey or performance of the ship. 
I did only use the term 'fist gold line' on SY Oceanica I Amel54#156 because Carina did use it for SY Ultimo Amel54#165.
Can only encourage you, Brent, to stay with Super Maramu or A54, if you want to go round our beautiful planet in a most safe way. The Amel way. 
The newer Amel boart are good, for sure, but made for a newer clientel which is relevant today on the boat markets, and not anmore the old Amel dinosaurs ... like me. :-)
All the best
Alexander


Brent Cameron
 

Thanks Alexander.  I fully agree and have had the pleasure of spending a couple of months cumulatively crewing on various Amel’s on long passages (all SM’s but I’ve been on lots of Amel 54’s and love them too).  I can’t imagine buying another boat.  

Thanks!

On Jul 29, 2020, 5:04 PM -0400, Alexander Hofmann <DACJ@...>, wrote:
Hi Brent
This 'Gold Line' has been more or less a design study applied on the A54 for the future Amel boats, that I never would have bought. I rely on the 25 years experience of Amel with Santorin to A54, inorporating tons of experiences of cruising sailors. I have been one of the last üpotential new boat buyers of A54, but the new ones came surpringly fast. So I bought a 3 year old 'gold line'.
I like the design, it is a more mordern and 'younger' touch, but it is not more indeed as a Gold/sand line instead of red and a number of design and light features inside. Nothing concerning basic principes of Amel, saftey or performance of the ship. 
I did only use the term 'fist gold line' on SY Oceanica I Amel54#156 because Carina did use it for SY Ultimo Amel54#165.
Can only encourage you, Brent, to stay with Super Maramu or A54, if you want to go round our beautiful planet in a most safe way. The Amel way. 
The newer Amel boart are good, for sure, but made for a newer clientel which is relevant today on the boat markets, and not anmore the old Amel dinosaurs ... like me. :-)
All the best
Alexander

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Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada