GOIOT Friction Set for Hatch


VICTOR MOLERO
 

Hello all.
I need to replace the Goiot friction set in the hinges of the aft cabin hatch (Super Maramu 2000). 
SVB has them available for the following models...
  • 44.31
  • 42.42
  • 43.43
  • 44.44
  • 49.36
...but I can't find anywhere on the hatch what model it is. Does anyone have this information?
Thanks in advance.
Victor 
SM314 Alendoy 


 

I am not 100% sure, but I think none of the above. I think it may be a Tradition 50. 
The following snippet is from the brochure for Tradition Hatches Catalog which you can download here: 


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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
Not affiliated or associated with Chantier Amel, La Rochelle, France


On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 8:48 AM VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:
Hello all.
I need to replace the Goiot friction set in the hinges of the aft cabin hatch (Super Maramu 2000). 
SVB has them available for the following models...
  • 44.31
  • 42.42
  • 43.43
  • 44.44
  • 49.36
...but I can't find anywhere on the hatch what model it is. Does anyone have this information?
Thanks in advance.
Victor 
SM314 Alendoy 


VICTOR MOLERO
 

This helps a lot. Thank you very much, Bill.
Best.
Victor 


Tilo & Jeannette Peters
 

Hi Victor,

That hatch is  a Crystal 49.36 and here’s the correct part:


On 18 Mar 2023, at 10:37, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:


This helps a lot. Thank you very much, Bill.
Best.
Victor 


 

Tilo,

Is the Crystal Range throughout your SM, or is there a combination of the Crystal & Tradition series?

I had possibly wrongly understood the SM had the Tradition series throughout. 




CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
Not affiliated or associated with Chantier Amel, La Rochelle, France


On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 11:39 AM Tilo & Jeannette Peters <ambiente.sm163@...> wrote:
Hi Victor,

That hatch is  a Crystal 49.36 and here’s the correct part:


On 18 Mar 2023, at 10:37, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:


This helps a lot. Thank you very much, Bill.
Best.
Victor 


Tilo & Jeannette Peters
 

Hi Bill,

Only that hatch is a Crystal, all the others are tradition. It looks almost the same. I think someone previously had put the Tradition friction kit into ours, and it was a total disaster.

Best,

Tilo

On 18 Mar 2023, at 18:24, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Tilo,

Is the Crystal Range throughout your SM, or is there a combination of the Crystal & Tradition series?

I had possibly wrongly understood the SM had the Tradition series throughout. 




CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
Not affiliated or associated with Chantier Amel, La Rochelle, France

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 11:39 AM Tilo & Jeannette Peters <ambiente.sm163@...> wrote:
Hi Victor,

That hatch is  a Crystal 49.36 and here’s the correct part:


On 18 Mar 2023, at 10:37, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:


This helps a lot. Thank you very much, Bill.
Best.
Victor 


VICTOR MOLERO
 

Thank you very much, Tilo.
The thing is that the measures of the hatch are different. Mine is 55x42. I guess (but only guess) that the friction axels may be the same, but so far neither SVB nor Goiot have been able to provide the measures of the friction axels that I need. My estimate is that they should be 16mm diameter and 45mm long. But I need to confirm these.
Víctor 


 

Thanks Tilo. I updated my info.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
Not affiliated or associated with Chantier Amel, La Rochelle, France

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 1:08 AM Tilo & Jeannette Peters <ambiente.sm163@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

Only that hatch is a Crystal, all the others are tradition. It looks almost the same. I think someone previously had put the Tradition friction kit into ours, and it was a total disaster.

Best,

Tilo

On 18 Mar 2023, at 18:24, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Tilo,

Is the Crystal Range throughout your SM, or is there a combination of the Crystal & Tradition series?

I had possibly wrongly understood the SM had the Tradition series throughout. 




CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
Not affiliated or associated with Chantier Amel, La Rochelle, France

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 11:39 AM Tilo & Jeannette Peters <ambiente.sm163@...> wrote:
Hi Victor,

That hatch is  a Crystal 49.36 and here’s the correct part:


On 18 Mar 2023, at 10:37, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:


This helps a lot. Thank you very much, Bill.
Best.
Victor 


Michael & Robyn
 

Greetings!

Yesterday I replaced the broken / decayed plastic pieces with a spare part set from svb.

https://www.svb24.com/en/goiot-friction-set-cristal-hatch-pair.html
For a complete repair one needs four of the plastic pieces, i.e. two sets.
I had only ordered one set.
I measured the plastic pieces dimensions as:
- outer diameter: 16mm
- inner diameter: 6.2mm
- length: 43mm
I mounted the GOIOT spare parts on the outer hinges and used a 1/4" inner diameter fuel hose with approximately 16mm outer diameter on the inner hinges.
Make sure to mount the bolts such that the head (Allen) points inside the hinge tube of the window part. When you have the window in the open position one can see a slot where to insert the Allen key. Use a 10mm socket with wrench on the outer side to loosen the bolt.

I have to say that I do NOT like this design. I think with a punch tool and a hammer / rubber mullet one can drive these friction inserts out and break into the boat.

It is also dangerous that when the friction plastic parts have decayed that in heavy weather with occasional breaking waves the bolts can work themselves out and you might loose the hatch cover.

So when you see black plastic crumbles under the hatch I highly recommend to perform the repair. It might even have to get on the regular check / maintenance list.

--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417


Michael & Robyn
 

I forgot to mention that the length of the plastic parts is not really critical. I would not go shorter than 42mm.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417