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Loose screws in portlight stainless trem

Duane Siegfri
 
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I have a few loose screws in the stainless steel trim for the portlights.  I need to add something to make the screws tight.  These are very short wood screws (only two or three threads).

Most of the articles discuss filling the hole with epoxy, then redrilling a pilot hole.  I'm loath to do that since it would likely glue the stainless to the fiberglass.

I'm thinking of using something like 3M 5200 that sets up fairly hard and then run the screw into that.

Any thoughts or experiences out there?

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Craig Briggs SN 68 Sangaris
 

Toothpicks, broken off to length, work fine. Add silicone when the screw goes in. Guaranteed for 50 years.
Cheers, Craig

Mark McGovern
 

Duane,

I second Craig's suggestion.  Plus, if it fails in less than 50 years Craig will come and personally fix it for you. ;)

3M 5200 is known as "The Devil's Glue" and should really only be used on things that you never, ever, want to take apart again.  Offhand, I can't think of a single place on my SM that I would use it in place of something that is almost as strong but way more removable like 3M 4200. 

Here's a pretty good article on marine adhesives from Practical Sailor:  https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/36_8/features/Marine-Adhesives-Caulks_5953-1.html

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

amelforme
 

Hi Duane. I used wooden toothpicks, preferably the tapered variety. Dip the ends that will go in the hole with any flexible  waterproof glue. When it sets up, cut the ends that extend outside the hole flush. If you get it right, no pilot hole needed and the screws will hold tight as originally.  The waterproof glue seals the hardwood toothpicks so the repair lasts a long time. All three Amel’s I’ve owned have this repair and so far nobody is complaining…

 

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io
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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Loose screws in portlight stainless trem

 

I have a few loose screws in the stainless steel portlights.  I need to add something to make the screw tight.  These are very short wood screws (only two or three threads).

Most of the articles discuss filling the hole with epoxy, then redrilling a pilot hole.  I'm loath to do that since it would likely glue the stainless to the fiberglass.

I'm thinking of using something like 3M 5200 that sets up fairly hard and then run the screw into that.

Any thoughts or experiences out there?

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Duane Siegfri
 

Thanks for the replies!  I have used the toothpick trick at home many times, why not here!

Duane

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi to all,
this is other test : https://www.pbo.co.uk/gear/which-adhesive-sealant-is-best-20877
Any experience which the best to seal windshield ? Sika 295 UV vs 3M 4200FC Marine ?
Many thanks
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428


Il 27/11/2019 14:52, Mark McGovern ha scritto:
Duane,

I second Craig's suggestion.  Plus, if it fails in less than 50 years Craig will come and personally fix it for you. ;)

3M 5200 is known as "The Devil's Glue" and should really only be used on things that you never, ever, want to take apart again.  Offhand, I can't think of a single place on my SM that I would use it in place of something that is almost as strong but way more removable like 3M 4200. 

Here's a pretty good article on marine adhesives from Practical Sailor:  https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/36_8/features/Marine-Adhesives-Caulks_5953-1.html

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

karkauai
 

Hi Giovanni.  On SM 243 the portlights were sealed with a LOT of clear silicone caulk.  That made removing the wooden panels inside very difficult.  If you use anything stronger than that you will never get the panels off without destroying them.

Kent & Iris
Kristy
Heading S from the Chesapeake in about 2weeks.

On Nov 28, 2019, at 5:03 AM, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:


Hi to all,
this is other test : https://www.pbo.co.uk/gear/which-adhesive-sealant-is-best-20877
Any experience which the best to seal windshield ? Sika 295 UV vs 3M 4200FC Marine ?
Many thanks
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428


Il 27/11/2019 14:52, Mark McGovern ha scritto:
Duane,

I second Craig's suggestion.  Plus, if it fails in less than 50 years Craig will come and personally fix it for you. ;)

3M 5200 is known as "The Devil's Glue" and should really only be used on things that you never, ever, want to take apart again.  Offhand, I can't think of a single place on my SM that I would use it in place of something that is almost as strong but way more removable like 3M 4200. 

Here's a pretty good article on marine adhesives from Practical Sailor:  https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/36_8/features/Marine-Adhesives-Caulks_5953-1.html

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Kristy,
sorry, I mean the windshield plexiglass in front of companionway _right.
Giovanni
sv EUTIKIA SM428
now at Preveza (GR)

Il 28/11/2019 16:25, karkauai via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni.  On SM 243 the portlights were sealed with a LOT of clear silicone caulk.  That made removing the wooden panels inside very difficult.  If you use anything stronger than that you will never get the panels off without destroying them.

Kent & Iris
Kristy
Heading S from the Chesapeake in about 2weeks.

On Nov 28, 2019, at 5:03 AM, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:


Hi to all,
this is other test : https://www.pbo.co.uk/gear/which-adhesive-sealant-is-best-20877
Any experience which the best to seal windshield ? Sika 295 UV vs 3M 4200FC Marine ?
Many thanks
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428


Il 27/11/2019 14:52, Mark McGovern ha scritto:
Duane,

I second Craig's suggestion.  Plus, if it fails in less than 50 years Craig will come and personally fix it for you. ;)

3M 5200 is known as "The Devil's Glue" and should really only be used on things that you never, ever, want to take apart again.  Offhand, I can't think of a single place on my SM that I would use it in place of something that is almost as strong but way more removable like 3M 4200. 

Here's a pretty good article on marine adhesives from Practical Sailor:  https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/36_8/features/Marine-Adhesives-Caulks_5953-1.html

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Symphony
 

Mark - I have laughed for two hours over "The Devil's Glue" - excellent.  I've never fought 5200 but I have read enough sad stories.  
I agree that 4200 is strong enough as I have used it in a few difficult spots, such as holding a sink up to the underside of a countertop, and it is amazing.

I am in the process of rebedding the 14 year old windshields on my boat.  The manufacturer suggested I use SIKAFLEX 290DC which was their OEM spec.  The bedding has lasted well, even with a few years in Florida sun, and only weeps when hit with direct splash or driving rain.

Happy holidays to all - we're close to the solstice up here in the north and over the hump towards another boating season.

Richard
Vicem 58 "Songbird"
New Haven, CT