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Main Furling gear box connection to foil


Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi to all,
thanks to Duane Siegfri photos it was possible to see how the foil is connected to the furling gear shaft.
Well,  I suppose that my steel upper bolt has enlarged a little bit the relative hole foil as the 2 parts (foil+shaft) are no more perfectly tightened.
I m planning to cut some cm at botton foil for a new hole.
To do that I dont know how many cm ( anyway the minimum necessary ) I may cut to avoid problem on the foil top.
Before I have to go on the top and to see, any experience about? Any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance.
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428




ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Giovanni,

 When we had the same problem after about 10 years and 50,000 miles the Amel team in Guadeloupe took about 2.5 cm off the bottom of the foil and drilled new holes. 

 One day I shall go up to the top of the mast when the main is up and see how many more times I can do that. If the length became really tight I'm sure there are other solutions, though none so easy.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece ( to where we fly  next week !)


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 09:07
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil
 
Hi to all,
thanks to Duane Siegfri photos it was possible to see how the foil is connected to the furling gear shaft.
Well,  I suppose that my steel upper bolt has enlarged a little bit the relative hole foil as the 2 parts (foil+shaft) are no more perfectly tightened.
I m planning to cut some cm at botton foil for a new hole.
To do that I dont know how many cm ( anyway the minimum necessary ) I may cut to avoid problem on the foil top.
Before I have to go on the top and to see, any experience about? Any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance.
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428




Giovanni TESTA
 

Dear Jan & Judy, 
Do you remember  their procedure to do that ? (Sail removed, lift down gear ecc ?)
After a saling around the world always with trade winds from port side, wrong side for furling, this is the consequence even if with big caution.
Many thanks  for your prompt support.
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 14:04 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni,

 When we had the same problem after about 10 years and 50,000 miles the Amel team in Guadeloupe took about 2.5 cm off the bottom of the foil and drilled new holes. 

 One day I shall go up to the top of the mast when the main is up and see how many more times I can do that. If the length became really tight I'm sure there are other solutions, though none so easy.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece ( to where we fly  next week !)

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 09:07
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil
 
Hi to all,
thanks to Duane Siegfri photos it was possible to see how the foil is connected to the furling gear shaft.
Well,  I suppose that my steel upper bolt has enlarged a little bit the relative hole foil as the 2 parts (foil+shaft) are no more perfectly tightened.
I m planning to cut some cm at botton foil for a new hole.
To do that I dont know how many cm ( anyway the minimum necessary ) I may cut to avoid problem on the foil top.
Before I have to go on the top and to see, any experience about? Any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance.
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428




ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Giovanni , 

We took the sail off and disconnected the gearbox from the foil and then took the gearbox off the mast . 
This allowed the foil to drop down and the very bottom could then be gently pulled aft just enough to use a saw on it . 
Ian 


On 4 Sep 2020, at 14:27, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:


Dear Jan & Judy, 
Do you remember  their procedure to do that ? (Sail removed, lift down gear ecc ?)
After a saling around the world always with trade winds from port side, wrong side for furling, this is the consequence even if with big caution.
Many thanks  for your prompt support.
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 14:04 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni,

 When we had the same problem after about 10 years and 50,000 miles the Amel team in Guadeloupe took about 2.5 cm off the bottom of the foil and drilled new holes. 

 One day I shall go up to the top of the mast when the main is up and see how many more times I can do that. If the length became really tight I'm sure there are other solutions, though none so easy.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece ( to where we fly  next week !)

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 09:07
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil
 
Hi to all,
thanks to Duane Siegfri photos it was possible to see how the foil is connected to the furling gear shaft.
Well,  I suppose that my steel upper bolt has enlarged a little bit the relative hole foil as the 2 parts (foil+shaft) are no more perfectly tightened.
I m planning to cut some cm at botton foil for a new hole.
To do that I dont know how many cm ( anyway the minimum necessary ) I may cut to avoid problem on the foil top.
Before I have to go on the top and to see, any experience about? Any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance.
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428




Giovanni TESTA
 

...perfect Ian ! In the while Alban from Amel Marin told me the same. Where are you ? We are saling Greek waters.
Ciao
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 17:01 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni , 

We took the sail off and disconnected the gearbox from the foil and then took the gearbox off the mast . 
This allowed the foil to drop down and the very bottom could then be gently pulled aft just enough to use a saw on it . 
Ian 


On 4 Sep 2020, at 14:27, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:


Dear Jan & Judy, 
Do you remember  their procedure to do that ? (Sail removed, lift down gear ecc ?)
After a saling around the world always with trade winds from port side, wrong side for furling, this is the consequence even if with big caution.
Many thanks  for your prompt support.
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 14:04 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni,

 When we had the same problem after about 10 years and 50,000 miles the Amel team in Guadeloupe took about 2.5 cm off the bottom of the foil and drilled new holes. 

 One day I shall go up to the top of the mast when the main is up and see how many more times I can do that. If the length became really tight I'm sure there are other solutions, though none so easy.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece ( to where we fly  next week !)

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 09:07
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil
 
Hi to all,
thanks to Duane Siegfri photos it was possible to see how the foil is connected to the furling gear shaft.
Well,  I suppose that my steel upper bolt has enlarged a little bit the relative hole foil as the 2 parts (foil+shaft) are no more perfectly tightened.
I m planning to cut some cm at botton foil for a new hole.
To do that I dont know how many cm ( anyway the minimum necessary ) I may cut to avoid problem on the foil top.
Before I have to go on the top and to see, any experience about? Any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance.
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428




ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Giovanni, we are arriving in Kilada on 11th, hope to launch on 17th and be afloat until 20th October, sailing at first in the Northern Cyclades and then wherever the wind takes us. Maybe our wakes will cross?
Ciao,
Ian


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 14:12
To: AMEL GROUP <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil
 
...perfect Ian ! In the while Alban from Amel Marin told me the same. Where are you ? We are saling Greek waters.
Ciao
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 17:01 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni , 

We took the sail off and disconnected the gearbox from the foil and then took the gearbox off the mast . 
This allowed the foil to drop down and the very bottom could then be gently pulled aft just enough to use a saw on it . 
Ian 


On 4 Sep 2020, at 14:27, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:


Dear Jan & Judy, 
Do you remember  their procedure to do that ? (Sail removed, lift down gear ecc ?)
After a saling around the world always with trade winds from port side, wrong side for furling, this is the consequence even if with big caution.
Many thanks  for your prompt support.
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 14:04 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni,

 When we had the same problem after about 10 years and 50,000 miles the Amel team in Guadeloupe took about 2.5 cm off the bottom of the foil and drilled new holes. 

 One day I shall go up to the top of the mast when the main is up and see how many more times I can do that. If the length became really tight I'm sure there are other solutions, though none so easy.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece ( to where we fly  next week !)

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 09:07
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil
 
Hi to all,
thanks to Duane Siegfri photos it was possible to see how the foil is connected to the furling gear shaft.
Well,  I suppose that my steel upper bolt has enlarged a little bit the relative hole foil as the 2 parts (foil+shaft) are no more perfectly tightened.
I m planning to cut some cm at botton foil for a new hole.
To do that I dont know how many cm ( anyway the minimum necessary ) I may cut to avoid problem on the foil top.
Before I have to go on the top and to see, any experience about? Any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance.
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428




 

I recently discovered that Amel has a repair kit for foils. 

According to someone who knows there is enough foil at the top when your Amel was made to cut about 6-7cm off the end twice.

Now to the repair kits. You'll need to check with Amel, but I believe that these kits will fit the Main foil on all SMs.

Here are instructions for the repair you have discussed and images of the Amel Foil Repair Kit:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:13 AM Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:
...perfect Ian ! In the while Alban from Amel Marin told me the same. Where are you ? We are saling Greek waters.
Ciao
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 17:01 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni , 

We took the sail off and disconnected the gearbox from the foil and then took the gearbox off the mast . 
This allowed the foil to drop down and the very bottom could then be gently pulled aft just enough to use a saw on it . 
Ian 


On 4 Sep 2020, at 14:27, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:


Dear Jan & Judy, 
Do you remember  their procedure to do that ? (Sail removed, lift down gear ecc ?)
After a saling around the world always with trade winds from port side, wrong side for furling, this is the consequence even if with big caution.
Many thanks  for your prompt support.
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 14:04 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni,

 When we had the same problem after about 10 years and 50,000 miles the Amel team in Guadeloupe took about 2.5 cm off the bottom of the foil and drilled new holes. 

 One day I shall go up to the top of the mast when the main is up and see how many more times I can do that. If the length became really tight I'm sure there are other solutions, though none so easy.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece ( to where we fly  next week !)

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 09:07
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil
 
Hi to all,
thanks to Duane Siegfri photos it was possible to see how the foil is connected to the furling gear shaft.
Well,  I suppose that my steel upper bolt has enlarged a little bit the relative hole foil as the 2 parts (foil+shaft) are no more perfectly tightened.
I m planning to cut some cm at botton foil for a new hole.
To do that I dont know how many cm ( anyway the minimum necessary ) I may cut to avoid problem on the foil top.
Before I have to go on the top and to see, any experience about? Any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance.
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428




Giovanni TESTA
 

Jan, ...for few days, grrr ! We are at Milos sailing Westbound to Cleopatra Marina Preveza.  Let us see next year, you never know ;-))
Buon Vento
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 19:49 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Giovanni, we are arriving in Kilada on 11th, hope to launch on 17th and be afloat until 20th October, sailing at first in the Northern Cyclades and then wherever the wind takes us. Maybe our wakes will cross?
Ciao,
Ian

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 14:12
To: AMEL GROUP <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil
 
...perfect Ian ! In the while Alban from Amel Marin told me the same. Where are you ? We are saling Greek waters.
Ciao
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 17:01 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni , 

We took the sail off and disconnected the gearbox from the foil and then took the gearbox off the mast . 
This allowed the foil to drop down and the very bottom could then be gently pulled aft just enough to use a saw on it . 
Ian 


On 4 Sep 2020, at 14:27, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:


Dear Jan & Judy, 
Do you remember  their procedure to do that ? (Sail removed, lift down gear ecc ?)
After a saling around the world always with trade winds from port side, wrong side for furling, this is the consequence even if with big caution.
Many thanks  for your prompt support.
Giovanni

Il Ven 4 Set 2020, 14:04 ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni,

 When we had the same problem after about 10 years and 50,000 miles the Amel team in Guadeloupe took about 2.5 cm off the bottom of the foil and drilled new holes. 

 One day I shall go up to the top of the mast when the main is up and see how many more times I can do that. If the length became really tight I'm sure there are other solutions, though none so easy.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece ( to where we fly  next week !)

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...>
Sent: 04 September 2020 09:07
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Furling gear box connection to foil
 
Hi to all,
thanks to Duane Siegfri photos it was possible to see how the foil is connected to the furling gear shaft.
Well,  I suppose that my steel upper bolt has enlarged a little bit the relative hole foil as the 2 parts (foil+shaft) are no more perfectly tightened.
I m planning to cut some cm at botton foil for a new hole.
To do that I dont know how many cm ( anyway the minimum necessary ) I may cut to avoid problem on the foil top.
Before I have to go on the top and to see, any experience about? Any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance.
Giovanni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428