Passarelle Question
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Doug Smith
Quick question for those who are familiar with the hydraulic passarelle found on some of the 54’s. I am repairing a burst hose on the one I have and replacing all 6 hoses. While doing this, I am also getting some of the componants replaced that have become rusty due to the water that I was getting into the stern locker. As others have noted that locker can get wet. In my case, it turns out that the location of the water ingress was around the two hoses that provided the inward and outward rotation of the passarelle. I will use a better sealant to repair
those holes once reassembled. I am seeing markings of what appear to be, VSR0400, with HE above it and OR in the logo. Pictures attached. Any advice on what they are, and replacement options would be greatly appreciated. Just left the hydraulic shop to get the new hoses and the nice people there were unable to identify or help much with this piece.
Thanks, Doug SV Aventura, 54-113 Deltaville, VA USA Doug Smith |
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Bill Kinney
Doug, https://paro.nl/library/components/dana-brevini/vsr0400 They limit the maximum flow of hydraulic fluid through any single circuit, and thereby the speed of movement. Bill Kinney |
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Doug Smith
Thanks Bill, you just saved me a major headache. I agree, it appears this is the device. It is 1/4” BSP threads. The hose shop measured the threads on the hose and they thought they were metric, but this confirms they were using the BSP type. It would have created a bit of a mess once we got them under pressure. I will see if I can get hold of those flow control valves, and keep that link to how you found them. Very handy!
Thanks, Doug SV Aventura, 54-113 Deltaville, VA USA Doug Smith
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main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> Doug, https://paro.nl/library/components/dana-brevini/vsr0400 They limit the maximum flow of hydraulic fluid through any single circuit, and thereby the speed of movement. Bill Kinney |
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Having gained extensive experience with the Opacmare passerelle (at immense cost), I can confirm these are flow restrictors. You need them specifically to limit the up-down speed. As the passerelle folds in it automatically adjusts the horizontal position of the passerelle to fit inside the slot. The system cannot respond fast enough if the up-down movement is too fast. This can potentially damage the stern. Despite the claims in the user manual the system is perfectly capable to damage the stern anyway so be careful when operating.
There is also a pressure balancing device across the two up-down cylinders. It lives at the back of the rotating part of the passerelle. You can rotate the restrictors to change the flow-rate and there is a contra-ring/nut to lock the adjustment. Be careful changing the settings. It took me quite some time to get everything dialed in correctly after the passerelle was overhauled. And make sure to exercise the whole thing at regular basis. Also keep it as much as possible free from salt as the rotational actuator is NOT corrosion proof. A new rotational actuator is around 6000 Eur new… Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A45-121 |
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Has anyone ever successfully removed their hydraulic passerelle? Or converted it to manual operation? Every time I repair it within 6 months it fails again. Happy New Year 🎆 Courtney Trippin 54#101 On Dec 31, 2022, at 6:14 AM, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 10:58 AM, Courtney Gorman wrote:
HiIf you mean remove it permanently, no. But I did remove it completely at some point to have it overhauled. The base is bolted to the stern with caulking in between. That makes it a pig to get off. I my case even worse because I had to remove it without any disassembly (rotational actuator was frozen solid). It is really heavy. It took 4 men to get it off all balancing at the stern of the boat trying not to make it into a boat anchor... Breaking the caulking bond was a nightmare and I was very fortunate it did not rip off the gelcoat. I don't know what fails on your passerelle so often, but I found the electronics to be quite reliable. The sensors are a mess and fail frequently. I now make the habit of turning off the whole thing with the circuit breaker as the sensors are always on, even with the passerelle not active. The rotary actuator needs to kept be well greased to prevent rust. As said before, I also exercise the device regularly. Taking it off permanently will give you the challenge of modifying the stern to match the new reality. Not impossible but not easy as well. You could make up a manual operated passerelle but the telescopic function would be hard to replicate. Also I don't like passerelles that have to rest on the shore-side as well. Movements of the boat will lead to damage sooner or later. In short, no simple solution get rid of the Opacmare and not affect the aesthetics of the stern too much. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna A54-121 Rotterdam |
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Arno, Can you e-mail me on ppsforbes@... I need some advice re Amsterdam. Peter Carango Amel 54-035 On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 at 12:04, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 10:58 AM, Courtney Gorman wrote: --
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Peter,
Big, big mistake asking a “Rotterdammer” advice re Amsterdam and then on top of all that specifically asking Arno who absolutely despises Amsterdam hahahahahahahaha
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
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Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 22:31 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Passarelle Question
Arno,
Can you e-mail me on ppsforbes@... I need some advice re Amsterdam.
Peter Carango Amel 54-035
On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 at 12:04, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
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