Water flow in the toilet bowl
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Hello group members,
I have a rather urgent question: In Amel 55, water flows continuously in the front toilet bowl. When I turn off the freshwater pump, it stops. I would like to know what could be the reason and where the valve for this toilet bowl is located.
Thanks in advance, Ales |
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John Clanton
It sounds like the flush solenoid has failed in the open position. It is located under the bottom “floor” of the lavatory cabinet. You will have to take everything out of the cabinet and may need to take out the middle shelf.
You may be able to tap on the side of the solenoid to get it to close, but will likely need to replace the unit for a long term fix. It may also have some dirt or debris inside the solenoid. I recommend keeping one spare solenoid on board. John Clanton Devereux A55, No.65 |
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Hi John,
Thanks a lot. I closed the valve so I can switch the freshwater pump on again.
I will check the flush solenoid. However, I wonder what would happen if you didn't notice the leak. In the front toilet, there is no drain on the floor at the bowl, and the one under the shower is not directly connected... Ales |
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John Clanton
Ales,
I looked in my files to find the model number for the solenoid, but had no luck. I will look in a couple of other places.
I understand what you are saying about the valve sticking open when nobody is onboard. On my boat, there is a small drain hole under the wooden sole in the forward head which should be big enough to drain what might overflow. Still, it does present some risk. Initially, I would turn off the water pump if I was leaving the boat for any amount of time, but over time, I have become complacent and only turn it off when I leave the boat for days at a time.
I’m glad you were able to find the valve. If you are able to make it work, I suspect it will only be temporarily, so recommend replacing it and then keeping an additional spare on board for the aft head. I still have the spares that I purchased from Amel at the time the boat was delivered, so have never needed to source a new one.
John Devereux A55, No. 65 |
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Take the valve apart. Usually an easy clean and relubrication with silicone grease.
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Will commonly work for many more years. A54-152 W. Porter McRoberts +1 754 265 2206 On Nov 5, 2022, at 12:26 PM, John Clanton <clanton@...> wrote:
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Hi John,
For now, I close the manual valve in front of the solenoid. I got a model number for the solenoid from Bill. There is no drain hole on my A55. Is your hole connecting the shower area or going directly down? Hi Porter, I will try to clean and lubricate it before replacing it with a new one. Ales A55 #34 |
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I carried 2 extra for 5 years. Both originals “failed” only to be returned to service with some light cleaning and relubrication. Same with the solenoids for the water maker. Panic in Tonga solved with a wire brush and some silicone grease.
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Good luck! W. Porter McRoberts A54-152 +1 754 265 2206 On Nov 6, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Aleš Marinšek <alesmarinsek67@...> wrote:
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David Crisp
Returned to Wilna Grace this week to find both toilets continuously flushing the moment the fresh water pump pressured the system. The problem was a blocked pin hole in the rubber membrane inside the solenoid valve. This hole must be clear in order for the pressure on either side of the membrane to equalise, otherwise the valve cannot close against the fresh water pressure.
The solenoid vale for each toilet is pretty easy to access and dismantle - you will need 14mm spanner and a star head screwdriver. Attached some photos, in particular to show the pin hole - when it's blocked it's difficult to see unless you know what you re looking for. -- David Crisp SV Wilna Grace Amel 54 #58 |
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Τhis solenoid is always not closing due to salt residues. It needs to be cleaned Στις Πέμ 27 Απρ 2023 στις 5:59 μ.μ., ο/η David Crisp <david@...> έγραψε: Returned to Wilna Grace this week to find both toilets continuously flushing the moment the fresh water pump pressured the system. The problem was a blocked pin hole in the rubber membrane inside the solenoid valve. This hole must be clear in order for the pressure on either side of the membrane to equalise, otherwise the valve cannot close against the fresh water pressure. |
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